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Hard Starting
Hard starting sticky. Currently a work in progress. Please make your comments and I will include your additions/corrections in the sticky.
================================= Hard starting usually caused by fuel, glow plug, or compression issues. Compression issues include low starting RPM caused by a weak starter, battery, or starting circuit wiring. An otherwise healthy IDI engine needs the following ingredients for good starting:
Glow Plug Section D24 really needs ALL 6 GPs functioning for good starting. Depending on ambient temperature and general engine condition, ONE bad GP can cause a no-start condition. TWO bad GPs can cause no-start even in mild ambient temps. Quick'n'dirty GP testing:
More on testing GPs here. Air in Fuel Section Hard starting-- air in the fuel system. Fuel system needs 100% liquid supply. Air mixed in with liquid fuel will cause problems. Performance problems or hard starting problems can often be traced to air intrusion into the Injection Pump. We often ask to install a temporary section of clear tubing or hose to the IP return fuel hose. This will allow visual inspection of air bubbles (or not) in the IP return-to-tank fuel line. We use evidence of air in the IP return to infer air intrusion into the IP, where there should be no air. Air in the IP most often points to one of several common failure modes:
Test for fuel to injectors by loosening an injector to injector line sealing nut, crank engine with ignition on, and verify small spurts of fuel forced out of the end of the injector line. Just small drips of fuel out the end of the injector line, not foam. Take care to avoid getting fuel on any hoses, it will easily damage them. Do not overtighten the nut when reconnecting. Injector line connector nuts torque spec: 25Nm / 18ft-lbs. Compression Section Hard starting-- Compression IDI Diesel engine needs good compression for starting. Borderline low compression engine may start when cold (because GPs will energize, momentarily helping overcome low compression), and hot (hot engine makes higher compression) but not warm, like say after a 20-30 minute shutdown period. Engine is not hot enough to provide good compression, but not cold enough for GP controller to energize the GPs. Sometimes you can cheat this condition by forcing to GPs to energize. By disconnecting the GP temp sensor at the rear of the head, you fool the GP controller into thinking it's always max cold out and to energize the GPs for the max time period. The temp sensor sticks out of the rear of the head, near 8 o-clock position along the rear camshaft pulley. Brown wire (if it's original), don't let it get tangled in the IP drive belt. Note this may prematurely wear out the GPs but will buy you some time until you can address the low compression issues. Low compression is usually caused by worn piston rings/cylinder bores, or valves needing adjustment. Engine sat for a long time (years): Piston rings can lose their seal. I had an engine that refused to start. Engine had sat for years, recently installed in car, needed it road-worthy like yesterday. Fuel was spurting from injector lines, compression was known good (when it was last running), GPs tested good, new starter, good battery backed up with charger, etc. Finally we got it started ONLY after squirting 1/4 teaspoon or so of motor oil into each cylinder via the injector holes or GP holes, I forget which, but will never forget how quickly it ROARED to life after getting the oil into the cylinders. Troubleshooting symptoms Here are some common symptom modes and what to look at:
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1985 744 gle d24t 1985 745 gle d24t Last edited by ngoma; 08-30-2017 at 10:19 AM. Reason: Added injector line connector nuts torque spec., formatting tweaks |
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