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Pump Adjustment Theory
Hey guys, I know the basics have been covered but they don't seem to describe my situation. I also have a question about theory regarding the pump. The issue I'm having is that after turning down fuel to get less smoke at low rpm/high load, I'm getting grey/white smoke at full boost. Is this a sign of running lean? The greenbook calls the lda a fuel limiter, meant for reducing fuel at low charge pressure. So, I take from this that the d24ts have more fuel overall than the d24s, and the diaphragm is just to limit that at low charge pressure/high load. This seems to be contrary to much of the information on the net. I don't fully understand the description of the operation of the device on the pump, but it is called a fuel limiter, not a fuel enrichment device.
So, the question becomes, to achieve max power/least smoke at low rpm: Start by tuning main fuel to get max power with least smoke at full throttle, then bring back LDA to limit smoke at low rpm or Start by turning main fuel as low as possible to get least smoke at low rpm/full load, then turn in LDA to get more fuel at full boost. Trying to wrap my head around this.
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1985 744 D24T M46 49mm t3 @20psi 280k |
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I will try to explain it.
The LDA is a fuel limiter, it actually limits the travel of the tension lever in the pump. When you supply the LDA with boost the control cone is pushed down via the pressure placed on the diaphragm, as this is pushed down the guild pin slides inward changing the point in which the tension lever stops. The best method to adjust these pumps is to adjust the smoke screw on the LDA all the way out to remove any preload, then disconnect the boost reference line to the LDA and drive the car around at low rpm full load to adjust the smoke via the max fuel screw. If you can't eliminate the smoke there is something else going on, maybe bad injectors, timing not advanced enough, worn out engine, one cylinder severely low on compression, bad valve guides and seals, ect..
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12mm pump heads, ARP stud kits and GTD nozzles available! http://d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1646 NA intake manifolds and 240 turbo pans for sale. Need d24 or d24t parts? PM me! Shipments done on fridays! 1982 242 D24+T/M46- Super pumped! Build thread: http://www.d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1545 1984 764 D24T/ZF build thread: http://www.d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1734 Diesel parts cars: 82 244,83 244, 84 244, 84 245, 85 745 |
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I would like to have my injectors reconditioned in the future to set a baseline. I have no record of them being replaced or serviced. I have a spare set which would make that process easier.
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With a healthy engine, good injectors and properly adjusted pump there won't be any smoke. I don't leave my engines at stock settings but I also like to try to get mine not to smoke when off boost.
What is your timing set at? You should pop test your injectors. ( I will pop test them for free if you want, just pay for the shipping) Compression test? Valve clearances?
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12mm pump heads, ARP stud kits and GTD nozzles available! http://d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1646 NA intake manifolds and 240 turbo pans for sale. Need d24 or d24t parts? PM me! Shipments done on fridays! 1982 242 D24+T/M46- Super pumped! Build thread: http://www.d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1545 1984 764 D24T/ZF build thread: http://www.d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1734 Diesel parts cars: 82 244,83 244, 84 244, 84 245, 85 745 |
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I am also running 20lbs of boost, so that might make tuning for no smoke more difficult, right? Logically it seems to me that the pump would have to have dynamic fuel delivery to supply appropriate fuel at low and high boost, which is where I thought the LDA comes into play.
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sounds like its time to get those GTD nozzles.
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After following anders directions the car is way less smoky (still smokes a little, hill start in 1st or winding up second will leave a decent cloud) and doesn't feel down on power. Got 28 mpg my last highway trip over 150 miles going 70-75 the whole time in 65 deg weather. Not sure why people recommend adjusting that limiter downwards for performance, all it does is add smoke. Has anyone here tried the governor mod? Shimming the springs or adding a stiffer spring? I would still like more power down low. Contrary to what everyone says about diesels and their low end torque, this car feels most powerful on the highway from 4k onwards.
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See this post Governor mod. A Simple search brought that up.
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Thanks, I believe I have read that one, it's just very short and I was hoping to get more than one impression.
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12mm pump heads, ARP stud kits and GTD nozzles available! http://d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1646 NA intake manifolds and 240 turbo pans for sale. Need d24 or d24t parts? PM me! Shipments done on fridays! 1982 242 D24+T/M46- Super pumped! Build thread: http://www.d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1545 1984 764 D24T/ZF build thread: http://www.d24t.com/showthread.php?t=1734 Diesel parts cars: 82 244,83 244, 84 244, 84 245, 85 745 |
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