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Old 04-15-2014, 07:41 AM
CapnSass CapnSass is offline
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Originally Posted by v8volvo View Post
Yes, I had DFIS in Portland rebuild a D24T pump for me several years ago that has been a lemon ever since -- runs fine but I had to replace advance piston cover gaskets on it within the first 15 months (both sides at different times -- including the inner side, which is a pain!), and then just last fall the shaft seal sprung a large leak for no visible reason so I had to change that as well. Now have about 40,000 miles on it in ~4 years and have had it off the motor at least twice since it was overhauled -- not fun!

I have had DFIS rebuild many TDI pumps and a number of other older VE pumps over the years and this was the first and only one of theirs I have ever had a problem with, so I I suspect they may have just gotten unlucky with some old or subpar parts when they put this one together. I don't think it was their fault. I still hold them in high regard and wouldn't hesitate to use them.

Another option for a really good rebuild on a mechanical VE, I would recommend Central Motive Power in Denver, CO. A former colleague of mine is their senior fuel shop tech, a guy with a lot of skill who actually enjoys building VE pumps (most techs don't!) and knows how to get the extra cold start bits, etc on a D24T pump right (most techs don't!). Just make sure you tell them to build your pump to sea level spec if you send it to them, since most of the work they do is for customers in the Rocky Mountain area and they usually set the pumps up accordingly.

Nevertheless, I'm also curious, why do you think it needs rebuilt? Rebuilds are expensive ($600-800) and in truth, are very rarely necessary, usually only in the case of abnormal abuse/damage.

What are your symptoms?
Thanks for the info! I'll check out DFIS today.

I purchased the pump from a Washington repair shop who was selling it for a customer/friend. They reported it as working, removed from a perfectly running vehicle with no leaks. Received the pump as promised and installed the pump. We had a heck of a time trying to get the car to run afterwards. We didn't have the timing tools but followed the manual & the guys doing it are competent & familiar with diesels of this sort. Anyway, after trying and trying took it to our diesel mechanic buddy who reported back that the pump is no good.

As far as symptoms... I am going to describe these to the best of my listening-in or overhearing girlie-self can. Symptoms we encountered were either black smoke or white smoke depending on where the pump was timed. Then we had trouble with the throttle, as in no throttle control (push on gas, does nothing). After hours of fussing with it, the boys decided to break and sleep on it. They decided to call in the diesel mechanic friend.

I didn't speak directly to the diesel mechanic friend but what I overheard & understood was that he the same problems with the throttle control, or lack of. The pump doesn't respond to the order for more or less fuel.

So.... I also have another pump (the one that came with the car) up at Oregon Fuel Injection. It was leaking, I sent it up for a reseal, they won't reseal because some internal component is "flaking". At that time found out I was missing my cold start advance module-thing therefore the total cost of the rebuild and replace cold start advance (so they could properly test it) was $1100. This was a little steep & I had just found the listing for the "working" pump in Washington ($500) which came with glow plugs, injectors, and fuel lines. I went this route to save a buck (which now really isn't going to).

I've had such bum luck with injection pumps. My IP drama has been going on for months now. I've just about used up all my time with borrowing vehicles (thanks dad & friend's dad). I was really hoping the purchased pump would present no troubles.

I hope I've provided enough translatable details. Thanks again for all your input. I'm in love with my wagon but this shiz is wearing on me. I suppose if I had another car it wouldn't be so bad...
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