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myselfnjit 12-09-2009 08:25 AM

What oil?
 
Just changed the oil with the usual 15-40 but got to thinking up here in the cold NY winters, should I use something else?
What does everyone use/ recommend?

Steve

Jason 12-09-2009 09:15 AM

You should be using diesel rated synthetic like 5w-40. I'm using 5w-40 blue bottle Rotella as its the least expensive of the diesel sythetic 5-40s. The engine seems to quite out quickly in the cold weather and the cold flow characteristics are much better than the 15w-40. The 5-40 can be run in the summer to, but if you want to run a 15-40 you should still run synthetic.

Jason

myselfnjit 12-09-2009 05:14 PM

Well that sure is going to bring the price of an oil change up!!
I change mine often so I guess it will be synth next time.
Question though: Will synth leak more? I have some pretty good seapage right now that I would hate to make worse.

Steve

v8volvo 12-09-2009 08:17 PM

15W40 non-synthetic is the worst thing you could possibly run in the wintertime, especially in NY where the weather gets cold. It guarantees rapid engine wear.

In a D24T the oil should ALWAYS be synthetic, and in the wintertime it had better be 5W30 or 5W40. I am running AMSoil Series 3000 5W30 this winter and used it last summer as well, though I'll probably switch to their 5W40 or 15W40 next summer.

It brings the price up at oil change time, but since you only need to change it about 1/3 as often the overall price ends up about the same. How often are you changing it now? Every 7500-10,000 miles is fine if you are running a high-quality synthetic. Rotella Syn is good stuff but it's toward the bottom of the chain. Mobil 1 Delvac is good, Lubro-Moly makes some good stuff, and AMSoil is the best but it does get expensive. Anything that is synthetic, rated for diesel use (capable of handling soot and high temps), and the right viscosity range will be better than what you are running now. Use a good filter as well -- Mann, Mahle, or WIX. Do not use a Fram or other low-budget filter. Cheap crappy filters are false economy -- the few bucks extra you spend getting a quality filter will save you thousands in the long run.

Synthetic will NOT make the engine leak more. That is a myth that arose in the 1980s with very early primitive synthetic oils. It has not been an issue for decades, but somehow the myth hangs on. It is false. Synthetic will do nothing but good for your engine, in every way.

myselfnjit 12-10-2009 04:10 AM

I change every 3-4k because I run WVO in the car and dont want any Veg that might happen to make it into the crankcase to polymerize.

Well I just changed the oil...
Cant afford another one right now but when I can I guess it will be a 5w30 or 5w40 synth.

Jason 12-10-2009 04:29 AM

The blue bottle Rotella is a good oil, ya maybe not as good as Amsoil, but its still a full synthetic. Wal-mart has it for $19 a gallon. With your veg oil thing going on, you could still push the oil change interval to say 5000 miles. It will still be better for your engine. I change mine every 5000 but I also run the crap out of may car and blow smoke constantly so it gets pretty sooted up!

Jason

dahicori 05-02-2021 12:03 PM

Hello everybody!!

I have to make an oil change on my 245. I didnt fix , but the guy who is going to sell me my new rack, who seems to know is way around 240 and volvo in general, told me that mineral oil could settle some of my oil leaks.

Is that true? Because it s a non-turbo diesel...or is it the still living myth V8 is talking about?

problem is I have to use the car to take a train very early in the morning, and I have no time to get some oil: a friend of mine gave me some 10W40 Motul, expensive oil (like more than three time the price of the mineral 15W40). Should i give my old 240 that very fine food? Or some cheap beverage will do better ? Thanks!

v8volvo 05-03-2021 02:25 PM

The myth of different oil types causing or solving leaks is mostly a myth.

If there is a gasket that is already failing, then I suppose running a thinner or more slippery oil could increase a leak.... and on the flip side of the coin, yes there are "seal conditioner" products out there that promise to give new life to tired/brittle seals too, or thicker/worse oils.

But remember the main purpose of the oil is to lubricate and cool internal parts of the engine, not limit leaks from seals. That's the seals' job! Best choice is to use the right oil for the engine, and deal with leaks by making repairs, rather than attempting a fix in a bottle. You don't want to sacrifice anything in the primary purpose of the oil by chasing after leak mitigation, which is what you would do if you used mineral 15W40 rather than a good synthetic 5W40 or 0W40 (or some like 0W30/5W30 if you live where the weather never gets hot).

Your D24 should also be happy with the 10W40 Motul in the summertime, as long as it is rated for diesel engine operation of course. In the winter you want a 0W or 5W weight.

dahicori 05-08-2021 07:21 AM

ok! thanks!

DieselScout 05-12-2021 08:04 PM

I used to use 5w-30 or 10w-40 in the Winter and 15w-40 in the Summer.
Now I just use Rotella 5w-40 synthetic, year-round.


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