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palmtree 11-02-2011 06:55 AM

Injection pump is breaking belts
 
1980 D24 wagon with automatic. I have broken 2 injection timing belts in a week. I assume the pump is locking up at highway speeds. It's no fun being stranded on rural Missouri highways. Any idea what's up?
Thanks,
Brett

michaelovitch 11-19-2011 03:53 AM

Did you check the shape of your pulleys ?
do you run on wasted oil or diesel ?
are you sure the belt is the appropriate model ?

v8volvo 11-19-2011 10:25 AM

Most likely the rear belt tension is being set too tight (or perhaps way too loose).

If the pump were locking up, then you would be risking skipping teeth or breaking the front timing belt, which would be a disaster.

Too much tension on the rear belt will break it in short order. The rear belt should be relatively "loose" -- not so loose that it whips when the engine is idling, but you should be able to feel significant slack in it when the engine is stopped.

Adjusting tension is not the easiest but doable. 6 fuel lines and 5 fasteners hold it in place. First, remove the rear timing belt cover if not already done. Loosen all 6 injection line fittings at pump and at injectors; loosen two 13mm bolts just behind pump head anchoring rear of pump (part pointing towards the front of the car) to block near vacuum pump; loosen two 17mm bolts directly behind injection pump anchoring pump bracket to block (hard to reach, can only do with 17mm open end wrench, may need to completely remove injection lines if bolts are not coming loose easily); and finally, loosen the lower 17mm bolt under the injection pump anchoring pump bracket to block. This is the fastener that is easiest to reach (17mm socket and 6" extension), so it is the one to use for your adjustment. With rear cam sprocket loose from cam (need special tools 9995199 and 9995201 or equivalent substitutes to manipulate sprocket, assume you already have something suitable for this purpose if you have replaced the IP belt in the past), slip the IP belt on and adjust your tension, then use that lower 17mm bolt to hold the pump in place while you try various pump height settings. It takes some trial and error to find a good spot, but the belt should *not* have any tautness to it after you are done.

Put on belt #3 with a different tension setting and see if that helps. If it still breaks, then you need to stop driving the car until you get the IP fixed -- if a sticky IP breaks the front belt and takes out your cylinder head you will not be happy. My money is on belt tension, though.

Jason 11-19-2011 01:12 PM

Where in Mo are you?? I thought mine and Alex's cars were the only D24 powered volvos around! I'm just south of St.louis in Arnold.

Jason

palmtree 03-15-2012 02:09 PM

Sorry I'm so slow in response. I am building a house now and keep getting pulled away from the volvo. I live just outside Warrensburg, Missouri. It's pretty far from Arnold. I drove a trailer to Arnold to pick up a 1966 mustang about 10 years ago. It's a pretty nice part of the state.
I am trying to get this car into reliable daily driver status. I just had the the belt replaced at a shop and now it runs fine except that now it is very slow to start in the morning. It always started right up before the belt broke. Do you think the mechanic changed something besides the belt?

Volvoist 03-15-2012 04:29 PM

Sounds as if this mechanic is overtightening the belt tension, and it sounds like the timing is way off. It would be best if you get the tools and reset the timing and tension this belt. This *should* solve your problems.
PS: I believe you and I have communicated via email previously. I was talking to another person with a 1980 D24 that kept breaking belts. I still think it is incorrect tension, which is easy to do. Most mechanics do not understand that the belt CANNOT be set too tight or it will break.


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